Al Capone was never convicted of murder, he went down on tax evasion.
OJ Simpson got away with double murder only to end up in jail for a two bit Las Vegas robbery.
Will it be something similar for wikileaker Julian Assange? Will he skate on the espionage allegations, only to fall to rape charges in Sweden? And how does assistant secretary of state, PJ Crowley, feel about that? Welcome Mr. Secretary. How do you feel about the fact that the criminal case against this bum is probably the one with legs as opposed to the more damaging, at least in a societal sense, leaking of the state secrets?
Well, Julian Assange has done damage to the United States and our national interests. He’s harmed our ability to do diplomacy around the world, and that diplomacy benefits the American people and others around the world. I’ll leave it to the Justice dept. to determine if he’s culpable- [cut off by Fox editing]
Before I get into some of specifics on that, I’m holding in my hands a set of documents from the state dept. in response to an FOIA, a freedom of information request obtained by the ACLU. The documents are heavily redacted. Isn’t it a fact that the state dept. has been traditionally extremely reluctant to release its secrets, and is this why a wikileaks exists in the first place?
Every organization, whether it’s a government or if it’s a company, has secrets. [another cutoff edit by Fox]
When the first leaks came out, I spoke to military officials, many of them dear friends of mine, in Afghanistan or Iraq who told me they feared that deaths, either of American GIs or our allies, or indeed Afghan nationals who are working with us or who are double agents, uh you know, who are pretending to be members of the Taliban and are spying on the Taliban for us, if their lives would be at risk. Can you point to any documented case where someone indeed has lost their lives as a result of these leaks?
I cannot say that that has happened yet, but remember we’re in the early stages of this and this will take some time to play out, but there’s no question that there are people inside of governments, people in civil society, that give us perspective, and country by country these people can in fact be at risk of being jailed or worse because of their names being revealed by this broad based revelation of classified information.
But generally speaking, hasn’t the vibe been pretty positive about how our diplomats are portrayed? The United States does not come off as venal, as self-serving, as deviants or manipulative?
Look, any time we’re talking about the release of 250,000 classified documents, there’s no good news here. People that were candid with us before may not be for at least the foreseeable future. [edit splice]Our diplomacy has been harmed by this. This is going to be difficult for a fair time to continue to conduct that diplomacy which serves our national interests.
Going back to Julian Assange, if he goes down on rape, will you be, uh you know, in some way mollified by this great transgression, will that be enough for the state dept.?
Look, Julian Assange has done damage to the United States. He’s undermined the international system where you cooperate, you collaborate, you work together to solve problems, but it’s going to take us time to rebuild the trust that has been lost here. Meanwhile we are investigating this fully as a government. I’ll leave it to the justice dept. to decide who’s ultimately responsible.
We got to get away from some of these redactions though Mr. Secretary. Be a little more open, perhaps, but be that as it may, Julian Assange, as you suggest – a very bad man who deserves some really terrible… [interruption]
Well Geraldo, let me just say on that point, this is about criminality, this is not having too many secrets. We need secrets, and we think we’re the most transparent country on Earth. But every government, every private company does have and properly keeps information, protected information, secret. That should not change.
Well we’ll have a beer and share a couple of secrets. Thanks a lot PJ. Appreciate it.
With a Swedish arrest warrant for rape pending against Assange and Interpol putting him on the equivalent of its most wanted list, various reports put him hiding in plain sight in England. With British authorities apparently are set to be fully aware of where Assange is staying. Why then haven’t they busted him and extradited him to Sweden for trial on the rape charges? Bringing in again our Kimberly Guilfoyl. What do you think?
Yeah, this is interesting. Last night we were getting news updates and reports that in fact the authorities in the UK knew exactly the location of Julian Assange, so we were anticipating an arrest, perhaps sometime even overnight. It hasn’t happened yet. I do believe it’s imminent and they want to make a case against him. I think they have a good one. I personally believe that you can’t just settle for the sexual assault case which should be prosecuted that will put him behind bars and then diplomatically be able to decide, uh you know, from the United States point of view, whether or not he should be charged under the espionage act, and I do believe he should.
You do? But I’m not sure it would apply in his case. Why would it apply? Because if you have this specialist Manning, the GI, who’s guilty of treason – he steals the, uh, disc. He disseminates it to 30 computer guys and they give it to their pals, this nerd, and that guy, and this expert and that guy — at what point does the criminality end in that chain?
Well you look at the specific intent of Julian Assange — that he received the information, he knows what he had and he deliberately disseminated it.
But why not the New York Times?
Well the New York Times is the press. Julian Assange is not the press. He is an anarchist and so he is deliberately acting against the interests of the United States and trying to cause us harm diplomatically and internationally.
Uh, the fact that he is an anarchist, uh on that I totally agree.
But with the president just back from his surprise trip to the troops in Afghanistan, many over there in Afghanistan and over here worry whether the revelations are a danger or just an embarrassment. Joining us our next and honored expert and newest Fox News contributor, retired four star general Jack Keane think of all this? General, welcome to the family, nice to see you. Welcome aboard. What do you think? How dangerous is this freak? How deadly to US interests? What do you hope happens to him?
Well certainly it’s outrageous, you know, what they’ve done and I agree with the commanders. There’s no doubt about the fact that it presents a danger to them in terms of getting into how they do operations, to their informants. The good news, as secretary Gates has said, at best he can tell, there’s not any evidence that any informant has been arrested or killed or maimed or any operation has been affected by this. That’s good news. As the secretary said, we’re only into this thing, and it takes a lot of time to get through this. The Taliban are computer literate at the top of that organization, so I’m sure that they’re pouring through some of this to gain some leverage over us in terms of how we do business, how we conduct operations. So no doubt about the fact– common sense tells you that this is an outrageous, despicable act that we should not stand for.
How about this general: the cable that suggests that former vice president of Afghanistan was caught in one of the Persian Gulf countries carrying fifty two million dollars in cash that had to be US taxpayer dollars, uh you know, isn’t that the kind of fact that you’d like to know as a US citizen to determine whether or not you support US policy visa vie Afghanistan?
Yeah, there’s no doubt there’s some information in there, certainly that you’d think the American people have a right to know. The fact of the matter is there’s corruption in Afghanistan, Geraldo, you’ve been there many times as I have been and we both know that. General Petraeus and his people are working very hard to deal with this thing. They have a task force that’s following US dollars to make certain it doesn’t line the pockets of the Karzai government, [that] it does not get into the hands of the Taliban. Has some of that money gone in that direction? You betcha it has, unfortunately.
What would you like to see happen to Assange?
Tried and convicted and wind up in jail.
Would it be enough for you that he went down on the rape charge in Sweden?
Well that’s another matter. If he’s involved in a despicable offense like that, my God, he certainly deserves, you know, full measure of the law. But I would also like to see him tried and convicted for what he has done in terms of releasing national security secrets and endangering people’s lives.
Well, well said General and again I welcome you on board. We look forward to having you on as a regular on At Large and uh, really respect you for your honored service and now you’re beginning in this whole new career as a pundit. I think this will be scarier than the other job you had General. Thanks a lot for being with us.
Amid amusing quotes by US assistance secretary of state, PJ Crowley regarding the US being “The most transparent country on Earth,” Geraldo and his sidekick, Kimberly [Guilfoyl] ostracized their target with a continuous barrage of rape accusations and calling for prison time. While prison time would be justified is such accusations were true, the reality is that Julian Assange is not being accused with rape in the sense that Americans usually understand it to be, but is rather being charged by the feminist government of Sweden’s understanding of rape, which amount to having consensual sex without a condom. Mr. Rivera’s and Ms. Guilfoyl’s labels of Assange as a rapist come across not only absurd, but disingenuous and slanderous. I can only suspect that the Fox News team is either inept (possible) or more likely in cahoots with its guest (Mr. Crowley) to spin, lie, and slander to save face for the incorrigible United States government. As an added irony, the teaser trailer to the segment stated quote clearly “We reveal the alleged sex crimes [of Julian Assange].” Of course… they didn’t.
Your country does not respect you. Evidence of this is overwhelming. A classic example is the argument going on in congress right now to not extend unemployment benefits but instead to extend tax cuts that favor the obscenely wealthy.
“The truth is that those in power have total contempt for everything they promise, everything they pledge, and that’s what Shakespeare’s great play [Richard III] is about.”
Of course the unwashed masses don’t care. They’d rather participate in the running of the cows on Black Friday. Those who sacrifice themselves for this country or its government are fools of the first order.
William Marsh Rice University (commonly known as Rice University) opened in 1912 as The William Marsh Rice Institute for the Advancement of Letters, Science and Art is a privatecoeducational research university located in Houston, Texas, United States. Its campus is located near the Houston Museum District and adjacent to the Texas Medical Center.
The Rice University Seal:
There are 3 owls in the seal.
There are 3 triangular shapes, representing the pyramids, another typical masonic image.
33 + mason… = 33 degree mason?
William Marsh Rice was a known freemason, so this may not be too surprising.
Next time you talk to the senior staff at Rice U, greet them with a masonic handshake.
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